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Rose joints are not an option on live axle cars as some compliance is needed within the suspension design. There are also varying quality of rose joints and the best ones tend to have a teflon liner and a rubber boot around them to provide protection from the weather and dirt.
The Fisher Sportscars
upgrade consists of 22 rose joints and the required spacers for a reasonable £300. Other owners have bought TSMX8 rose-joints
from Autosport Bearings
. These are all alloy steel, 3-piece units with PTFE liners, and over twice the URSL (Ultimate Radial Static Load) of the ones supplied as standard, at over 16,000lbs. They cost £13.79+VAT each. That works out at £357 for the set.
Powerflex
PF102 bushes are a 'universal' top-hat design. You need to drill out the stainless ferrule to 12mm or 1/2 " (whichever size bolts you're using) and use a hacksaw to cut the ferrules in half and also to cut the 'brim' of the hat down, giving you a thinner brim and poly 'washer' offcut. This makes the bush short enough to fit in the chassis mounts. Mount the brim to the rear of the car as this is the direction of all loads. One bush does one wishbone as you're actually only using half the bush in each leg of the wishbone. If you have bushes with a 1/2" hole, you must be use 1/2" bolts (make sure the chassis is drilled for these before you start assembly. Having an M12 bolt through a 1/2" hole makes the car sloppy and impossible to set up.
Front Uprights
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You generally have a choice when it comes to the front uprights. The standard is now to use Sierra uprights but the old MkII Escort ones are lighter and offer a better castor angle. Getting hold of them proved very problematic and I got mine from a local scrap yard. Cut down ready to go to Fisher Sportscars |
A rather more expensive alternative is to use new custom uprights from Raceleda
. Westfield also sell new fabricated uprights and Stuart Taylor
are also now selling some.
The lower wishbone uses a Sherpa Van track rod end, part No. QR1774 R.H. Thread.
Springs & Dampers
The default springs and dampers supplied seem to vary but whilst good quality, they are all pretty heavy. Richard
used Nitron
NTX dampers and springs to save weight. This was an expensive weight saving exercise but, his complete front damper with spring was only 2.05Kg.
This was a tough decision that required some careful consideration but the first thing I'd end up upgrading to improve handling and reduce weight are the springs/dampers, so rather than waste money on the usual items, I'm using the Nitrons from day one. I'm using a standard road set set up and ride height since my car is mainly for road use. The Kit Car Workshop
recommend 180lb springs at the front and 130lb springs at the rear. Guy at Nitron needed the following information for my order:
The adjustable rod on the lower rear wishbone faces towards the front of the car. The upper wishbone is also handed and the offset on the top wishbone must also be towards the front of the car. The hubs are also handed and their orientation depends on whether you are using disk or drum brakes. For disk brakes the flat side of the hub must face towards the front.
The recomended setup from the build manual for the IRS Fury are:
Rear: Toe-in = 1-2mm and no negative camber at normal ride height.
Front: Toe-in = 3-4mm, ¾ to 1º negative camber. This means the wheel is leaning in at the top slightly.
During the build, I set the suspension geometry up as best I could. Fisher recommend that the front wheels should have a toe-in of 3-4mm. This is checked by measuring the distance between the rims at the front edge of the wheels and then take the distance between the rear-most edges. The difference between the two measurements is the amount of toe in (or toe out if the front edge measurement is greater than that of the rear edge).
Front camber adjustment is done by rotating the lower ball joint in/out of the lower wishbone. This resolution of adjustment is thus limited to one 360º rotation of the ball-joint. Given the thread pitch and the separation between the wishbone mounting points on the upright, this equates to about more than 0.5º change per rotation of the ball-joint, so it is not always possible to hit the target ¾ to 1º negative camber. Note that changing this will also alter the toe-in.
The RGB specify 75mm minimum for the 750 race series, which gives a minimum setting. A few owners report running a Fury with 80mm ground-to-sump clearance and 100mm ground-to-chassis clearance, resulting in some care being required over speed bumps.
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